I was recently re-listening to an older episode of the wonderful Let's Make Mistakes podcast with guest Faruk Ates(who is always awesome..and hot btw), and I love their take on the subject of the brogrammer.
Personally the first time I heard the term brogrammer I nearly threw up in my mouth. The image I got was quite depressing. How could nerds, at the peak of their fame invite their classic tormentors into the field? It's unbelievable to me. Too unbelievable perhaps.
The implication of the modern brogrammer, and the subsequent question of women in the industry have been well covered at this point so I wont go into that. But my only problem with the blame game is that I see the subject of women in programming going back decades. I work in a book store and I recently thumbed through a book on the very subject dating back to 1991. It reads almost verbatim with articles written today, which is not to say the book was ahead of it's time. For myself I'm pretty convinced that it's no longer progressive to continue to blame the boys club on the issue.
I feel like we've moved past the general topic of women in design, or can at least cite to ample sources of information on the subject. I'm hoping we wont dwell too much on male oppression when it comes to the future of women in programming, and instead lean towards encouragement, because we do need more women in the industry.
That being said, I have a personal beef with the term brogrammer as a male. Same goes with the term boys club. I can tell anyone who is listening that that being male unto itself isn't an automatic advantage. Man stuff and the male ego are a universal problem. There are plenty of designers who happen to be male that have to deal with the same things as designers who happen to be female. That's why people start new design firms. We all see that point were ego, personal issues and conservatism cross the line.
You see, I'm trying to make it in this field as well. I totally see the problem and it's masculine roots. I don't need aggressive ego maniac male competition any more than females do. I have enough trouble with highly trained competition as it is, regardless of sex. What I want to know is if this brogrammer thing is just a hiring trend or a game changer. And I'm still confused about how this all began considering this clip.
In the end I'd rather compete for jobs with qualified women than qualified douche bags. And shame on these conspiring nerds for allowing this element of humanity into the game while normal designers look for jobs. Who are these people anyway? I hope someone makes a brogrammer-run company list so I can make sure to not support any of them. Ugh.
Personally the first time I heard the term brogrammer I nearly threw up in my mouth. The image I got was quite depressing. How could nerds, at the peak of their fame invite their classic tormentors into the field? It's unbelievable to me. Too unbelievable perhaps.
The implication of the modern brogrammer, and the subsequent question of women in the industry have been well covered at this point so I wont go into that. But my only problem with the blame game is that I see the subject of women in programming going back decades. I work in a book store and I recently thumbed through a book on the very subject dating back to 1991. It reads almost verbatim with articles written today, which is not to say the book was ahead of it's time. For myself I'm pretty convinced that it's no longer progressive to continue to blame the boys club on the issue.
I feel like we've moved past the general topic of women in design, or can at least cite to ample sources of information on the subject. I'm hoping we wont dwell too much on male oppression when it comes to the future of women in programming, and instead lean towards encouragement, because we do need more women in the industry.
That being said, I have a personal beef with the term brogrammer as a male. Same goes with the term boys club. I can tell anyone who is listening that that being male unto itself isn't an automatic advantage. Man stuff and the male ego are a universal problem. There are plenty of designers who happen to be male that have to deal with the same things as designers who happen to be female. That's why people start new design firms. We all see that point were ego, personal issues and conservatism cross the line.
You see, I'm trying to make it in this field as well. I totally see the problem and it's masculine roots. I don't need aggressive ego maniac male competition any more than females do. I have enough trouble with highly trained competition as it is, regardless of sex. What I want to know is if this brogrammer thing is just a hiring trend or a game changer. And I'm still confused about how this all began considering this clip.
In the end I'd rather compete for jobs with qualified women than qualified douche bags. And shame on these conspiring nerds for allowing this element of humanity into the game while normal designers look for jobs. Who are these people anyway? I hope someone makes a brogrammer-run company list so I can make sure to not support any of them. Ugh.